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DaveTrojan

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The final selection of which crash site(s) to visit on Friday 25 April will be made just before the symposium. The site will be selected based on group preference, group size, and weather. Check this thread for canidates and final selection.  

The short list includes:

 

 

Grumman F8F-1 Bearcat Crash 07-17-1945 near SFO East Bay

 

PBM-5, Bu# 45415, crashed 30 NOV 44, Mount Tamalpias California

Link to info/pictures  http://www.aviationarchaeology.com/pbm5bu.htm

 

F4U’s, Bu# 50391 & FG-1 Bu# 13858, crashed 4 OCT 45, Mt. Tamalpias CA

Link to info/pictures http://www.aviationarchaeology.com/F4UFGtdy.htm

The Mt. Tamalpias sites are limited to a maxium 20 people without a special permit. We may split up and go to different sites depending on preference.  Other sites are under calso onsideration. If you have a site that you are interested in,  please post it here. Maybe others are interested too and a group could be arranged.  There are lots of sites in the area not too far away.
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Any of those would be great choices! I think the Bearcat site is the easiest to get to, hiking wise anyway, the other two sites are a little bit more difficult to get to than the Bearcat site. The Bearcat site is more in the open and might be better for a larger group to stick together, but in that same regard, it's a fairly concentrated site and could probably be checked out fully in a short amount of time. Traffic wise, being a Friday in the Bay Area, I'm guessing the Bearcat site is the easiest to get to.

Any chance on getting access to a site that is normally not accessible? Such as a site that is on private property or in normally closed off parklands? Or maybe a site that needs further searching/examination? Or maybe getting vehicle access to a site that is normally gated off, shaving off a ton of hiking time? I don't have any such sites in mind, just throwing those ideas out there.

Jeff

 

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There are a number of micro sites in farm fields near the base, but I want something better. I'm open to ideas and other sites. There is the Tells Peak B-17, but that is a long drive. Any other suggestions?
I'm willing to do some work to gain access to a site if you find one.
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The only one that comes to mind was the Wauhab Ridge B-29: http://www.donrjordan.com/Wauhab.html

It's in the Sunol/Ohlone Regional Wilderness somewhat south of Livermore. According to the story in Pat/Don's book, it's on parkland not normally accessible. Maybe whomever owns the property, the parks district or whatever, would like to see a full survey of what is up there? Can't really think of any others that aren't micro sites that immediately come to mind. And I don't even know how complete that site is. I don't think the entire aircraft is there, but I don't think it's a micro site either.

I think the Bearcat is a good site, I just wish they allowed metal detecting up there, I'm sure there is more up there than what is on the surface. I reread the parks metal detector rules, and they only allow it in beaches owned by the parks, and not in undeveloped parklands.

And this Friday crash site visit is in addition to the search of General Travis' crash site, correct?

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Yes,
Friday off base to crash site
Sunday on base Gen. Travis B-29 site.
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It has been decided to offer a choice for which crash site you would like to visit.  Either the F8F Bearcat or the PBM

Dave Trojan will be your tour guide to the F8F Bearcat site
phone: 808-386-0609
email: davidtrojan@earthlink.net
 

Matt Cerkel will be your guide to the PBM site. (max 20 people)
phone: 415-609-3863
email: tamranger@hotmail.com

Please contact your choice of tour guide to let them know you are coming.

More info in the next post
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The meeting place for the PBM site visit will be at the Mill Valley Safeway at 11am 25 April 

The Mill Valley Safeway is located at 1 Camino Alto, Mill Valley, CA (415) 388-6216()


https://www.google.com/maps/place/Safeway/@37.894112,-122.531346,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x0:0x75c5c619d04c7a32

Depending on the number of people and cars Matt could then guide everyone to one of two trailheads. A smaller one with limited parking is very close to the crash site, but is not easy to find.

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The meeting place for the F8F Bearcat crash site visit will be at the Benicia Safeway at 9am. 25 April

The Benicia Safeway is located at #50 Solano Dr, Benicia, CA in the ‎ Solano Square Shopping Center (707) 745-4047

 

https://maps.google.com/maps?t=m&sll=37.894112,-122.531346&sspn=0.0065024,0.0109864&q=Safeway&cid=0x75c5c619d04c7a32&output=classic&dg=ntvb

 

Note: from Safeway it is about a 40 min drive to the park.  

 

 

Driving directions

 

To Round Valley Regional Preserve, 19450 Marsh Creek Rd, Brentwood, CA 94513

From: Travis AFB

 

1. Exit Travis AFB Main Gate, follow Air Base Parkway

2. Take the ramp onto I-80 W

3. Take exit 40 to merge onto I-680 S. toward Benicia/San Jose

          Detour to Safeway store, Starbucks, Subway (around corner), along route

          Take the exit onto I-780 W toward Benicia/Vallejo

          Take the E 5th St exit

          Turn left onto E 5th St

          Turn right onto Military E

          Turn right at 1st St., Arrive Safeway, #50 Solano Square Shopping Center

4. Take exit 53 for CA-4 E toward E Pittsburg/E Antioch

5. Follow signs for Antioch Pittsburg/CA-4and merge onto CA-4 E (stay left on CA-4, it becomes Vasco Rd then the next right is Marsh Creek Rd)

6. Turn right onto Marsh Creek Rd

7. 19450 Marsh Creek Rd, Round Valley Regional Preserve Park

 

The hike to the Bearcat site is about 1 mile on a well used trail   

 

 

Note: When returning via this route, Must pay Toll or use "Fast Track" before crossing bridge.

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UPDATE

Due to weather concerns

The Friday field trips have been rescheduled for Sunday PM!

Following the Sunday Presentation and Travis B-29 crash site visit, We will then proceed to F8F Bearcat site on Mt Diablo.

Weather predicted for Sunady is Partly Sunny high 69.
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