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Shadar

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  Just thought I would mention, I was in 3rd Bn at the time of the crash and knew almost all of the guys that died.  Terry's last name was actually "Holloway", the same as mine.  We used to kid each other about swappijng name tags.  Apparently, one of the newspapers spelled it wrong and the error cascaded.

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Dave,
I was at JFK Chapel at Ft. Bragg on 30 Sep 11 for the memorial of MSG Dan "Slim" Adams, Team Sergeant, ODA 0123, B Co, 1St bn, 10th SFG(A) who was KIA on 13 September in Afghanistan. Slim was a great man, gone but not forgotten.

Arriving early, I walked around the grounds and saw a monument dedicated to 11 fallen members of ODA 591 and ODA 593. There was no explanation of how they perished, and it bothered me. I did a search and found this thread. Thank you for this report and your dedication and honor. You did a great thing and a tremendous service for the fallen.

Yours in Service,
Ron White
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Godspeed Slim. You will not be forgotten.
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Photos of the monument outside JFK Chapel at Fort Bragg on 30 Sep 11. God Bless these heroes and their families.
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Thank you very much for the photos

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Dave, Thanks for this great story. Here's a photo of 65-15692 in Vietnam in the 1967 time frame. My records indicate the serial number of this bird is 65-15692 not the 65-05692 that is mentioned. I webmaster a website called USAF RotorHeads where we preserve the history of USAF helicopter operations, maintainers and crews. http://www.rotorheadrus.us I've been working on a story of this tragic crash and would like to include you story, with your permission, about your search and finding the crash site.

 

 

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The highest serial number issued in 1965 was 65-13540, according to Joe Baugher's site. There were some reserials of some Army H-55's, with numbers in the 65-18000 series, but nothing between these and 65-13540. His site shows the number 65-05692 as being the helo under discussion.

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Walt,I agree that Joe Baugher's site only list numbers up through 65-13540, butlooking at the block of CH-3C's he list the numbers as 65-5690/5700 (withoutthe "0" as in 65-05692). I didn't see where his site listedthem as 65-05692 in the 1965 listing. After reading his explanation of theserial number system (several times) I'm still a bit confused, however itlooks, to me, like the 1958 directive to add a fifth digit may be in play andthe correct number for this bird is 65-05692 as you say. Thanks for yourinformation. Now, I've got to track down why the Jolly Green Association listthis group of birds as serial numbers 65-15690/65-15700


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I was stationed at Shaw in the mid to late 1970s and worked on 692. My first day on the job as a mechanic (AFC 431x0) one of the 4 helicopters had crushed an airman in the left sponson wheel well. He was shimming the landing gear and had failed to install jacks. Although it has been 35 plus years I am sure that was 692. Also the picture of 692 in Vietnam was before being modified with an external hoist.    

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welcome to the message board jeden5859. Thanks for the Interesting story about the early history of CH-3E, 65-05692

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Dave - SSG Robert L Griswold was my nephew. Robert is remembered, loved and missed everyday. Thank you for honoring him and the others lost that day. You have answered many questions. 
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Dave,

Thank you for this article. My uncle was MSgt Roger Berryhill. I was only 5 when he perished but I remember a few things about him. It means so much that you would put up a memorial for him and the others from that fateful night.

SSgt Elizabeth "Berryhill" Boring
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Like jeden5859 I was stationed at Shaw AFB, 703 TASS in the mid 70's. I have some details to add to the accurate description made about the accident involving 65-05692. It occurred on November 20, 1975 shortly after lunch. Myself and another airman (Airman Dan McKilligan) were talking about trivial things with A1C Jerry Forquer in the cabin of 692. Jerry was reading the tech order, seeing what was involved in shimming the landing gear. The aircraft had returned from a training mission with a reported vibration. This same problem had been reported over and over again with this aircraft, the problem was difficult to locate. It was decided that the vibration could be a result of too much play in the landing gear pivot shaft in the left sponson. I left Jerry to go pick up a CMSGT at ops. On my return to the flightline we observed emergency vehicles racing toward our area of the flightline. As we rounded the curve I could see that 692 was listed badly to the left and my first thoughts were for A1C Forquer. It took too long for a crane to lift the helicopter. A1C Jerry Forquer died as a result of being pinned between the retracted wheel and the front inside of the wheel well. The investigation concluded that A1C Forquer failed to heed the warning in the tech order to put jacks under the aircraft before working on the landing gear. After removing certain parts the landing gear was able to collapse, which it did. After that 692 was the hanger queen for months, if not a year. I later cross-trained to flight status as a flight mechanic and flew many hours on 692. Never a flight went by with thinking of A1C Jerry Forquer, my friend. One final memory of 692 was that it was the only one of our 4 aircraft that had flown in Vietnam. There were several small patches on both sides near the aft ramp from bullet holes, inflicted on a mission there.
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Thank you Jere McSparran for the information. It adds to the important history of the aircraft.
I'm looking for photos of the aircraft while in service if you have any.
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Dave T, please get in touch
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