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TCampbell

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Dave, 
My father was a passenger on this flight. Thank you for your thoughtful memorial. Though I have not had the opportunity to visit the crash site, I plan to make my way out there someday. I am surprised to know there are still parts from the crash on the site. I have several photos of the bird prior to her departure from Fort Huachuca. I am honored that you would take your time to examine all the details of this crash. I am willing to speak to you further about this incident and to see if we can get you copies of the photos. 

De oppresso liber

T. Campbell
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Thank you for the remembrance of these men, my friends and comrades.  I was in C 3rd of the 5th SF, and was to accompany the teams to AZ on this mission, but stayed behind to attend French language school.  I remember the shock of losing all of these guys; we were all numb for months.  Thanks for bringing to light just what happened that night.  To the families that lost their fathers, husbands and brothers, we have not forgotten them, and honor their service to this day.
Yours,
Tim Kelly, MSG (Ret) 
Former 18D with ODA 595

Mario7979

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I want to thank you for Honoring the people of the CH-3E, 65-05692  Pony 1-2....I did not know MSGT Roger D berryhill but I have known his brother since 1977 in Korea....Tony Berryhill was the best man at my wedding and talked about Msgt Berryhill....I was stationed with the 5thy Special Forces in april 1989....I have forwarded this info to Tony and asked him to check your site out....He will apprecv iate it also....I would tell his mpther but she passed away a few years back....She would also appreciate it....i will also make sure his wife knows about your site....and again Thank you....

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Dave this Tony Berryhill. I want to thank u for what u have done. Iam retired from the army would like to know the location of the crash site where my brother died. I was in Advance Non-commissioned Officer Course at Ft Gordon Ga. when I received word of the crash. I flew out to Arizona to escort his body back to Alabama for burial and never got the chance to visit the crash site. again I thank u for u have done it means a lot to me and my twin brother. I have seen what they did at Ft Bragg for SF who lost their lives and will one find the crash site.

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Dave...

I want to thank you for your dedication, research  and posting of this piece.  It means so very much to me. 

One of the passengers on this flight was a dear friend that I met in college.  A truly remarkable man with no words to describe him.  We became estranged and then, much to my horror, I found out about the accident.  Upon researching for more information, I couldn't find any.  Simply that there was a training accident in the Arizona desert. 

Over the years, I have thought about him quite often.  Of course with a glimmer of hope that there was a mistake.  Last night as I watching a Ranger School program on the Military Channel, thoughts of him came back.  So I decided to try again, since so many years had passed.  Realizing that I had VERY little information, I had to try many different search phrases and at length was led to your post. 

The reality of seeing his name on the memorial plaque  ended all of my denial.  Thank you.

May all affected by this tragedy find peace.

Cara

clsjh6

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Drew...

I want to thank you for posting the picture of the memorial plaque.  I'm sorry for the loss of your friend.  Thank you for all you do for US.

Cara

FreefallDoc

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Greetings all;

I was searching for unknown reasons about this crash, and found info from the original poster on another site, and posted there. I will paste it again below. And its good to hear from guys I know, like Tim Kelly, and from people that knew the fine unit mates we lost. If I find the strip map and can post it, maybe Google Earth can give you GPS coords.

I was the medical officer (PA) for the SF battalion that lost many comrades that night. I was awakened early by a phone call at Ft Bragg and ordered in to see the XO (now-retired MG Tom Csrnko). By the time the bulk of the unit knew anything, I had dental and HREC in-hand and was tasked to assist USAF accident investigation team and be unit liaison.

Tough scenes and times for this fairly new FS when I knew each man on the Army roster lost. Two ODA's were inexactly cross-loaded on the two birds, and a story is told that there was a last-minute change effected as the men walked back out to the helos after refueling was complete.

I spent many night out there in the cool desert air talking with the site guards; mostly young USAF "kids" who were very respectful and mindful of the importance of their mission to protect the site. I'll always remember them, and the multitude of shooting stars that the broad desert sky revealed; I'm thinking at least 15.

Around the time of the memorial service, I went out and planted a cross marker with the initials of all aboard, and IIRC, a unit coin was affixed. The folks at the DMAFB Craft Shop were kind enough to help me with this project. The cross was placed next to the dirt road lined with wire poles, and in a small patch of shrubbery so maybe it would not get run over.

I made a strip map at the time, and I'm pretty sure I still have it. The method was number of power line poles from the intersection of the paved road to the site. My ex recently sent a manila envelope with items from the crash, and I will review the contents and communicate with those who have respectful and genuine interest which seems to be the ethic here.

At the memorial service, I met a SF (NG or USAR) Lt. from a local unit who mentioned a more permanent memorial, but when I made multiple trips back in later years when traveling as a member of the Army Parachute Team, and much later when working at Pinal Park facilities nearby, I did not see one, and the cross went from remnants to desert dust.

After a fire that hot, I was not surprised to see the defeated morphology of metal that thankfully usually maintains its shape under high turbine operating temps, but was amazed to find pages of the CH-3 operators manual intact but for burned edges reminiscent of the craft work folks did in the 70's before mounting on wooden plaques. This page has the views of the outside of the mighty aircraft.

You all know I could not let that symbolism blow off into a wadi, so I kept that and a few other things to hopefully pass on to someone closer to the souls on board, at a time more remote from the emotions that carried the day some 20 years ago.

There is a memorial marker outside of the JFK Chapel at Ft Bragg, NC. I and many others from the SF community would love to see a memorial at the crash site. The CO of C-3-5 SFG, now retired COL Ron Newton has never forgotten the men and the day despite more losses in between, and was a frequent visitor to the existing monument.

Pls feel free to contact me here or freefaldoc@aol.com, and I appreciate that others still care all these many years later.

Regards;

Mike Davidson
MAJ, USA-Ret

gunhog11

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Dave,

Checked on the site for you by happenstance.   The marker is sound and in good condition, though it was knocked askew a bit.  The flags were gone, whether due to wind, rain, or illegal aliens...likely the marker movement; but I found one of the flags not too far away and replaced it, as well as straightened up the memorial marker, before continuing on my tracking work out there.  Excellent work on it, sir.

Regards,

Mike
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That's good news, I hope it lasts for many more years. Thanks Mike
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I revisited the site recently, The cross was still there and still looking good.
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MFlake

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Dave,

Thanks for all you have done to remember those who died in that tragic accident. We flew over the crash site just a few days ago and I saw the white cross marking the site. I had no idea it was there. I plan on taking my wife a kids out to see that hallowed place soon. We, the 305th Rescue Squadron (formerly the 71st Special Operations Squadron) hold a memorial service at the memorial on Davis Monthan AFB every 10 years to remember the sacrifice of those who died. Thanks again .

Mike F.
FreefallDoc

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Today marks 22 years since the loss of so many sons, fathers, brothers and comrades-in-arms.

Our memories of them are still strong, and so is the military of the United States to which they dedicated themselves, and gave all.

Thanks to all who have helped keep the memories alive and active, and preserved this history here and in other ways.

Mike Davidson
Maj, USA-Ret
5th SFGA

marfie

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Larry Endress was one of my best friends in the Special Forces Qualification Course. After I'd moved off post, we'd always sit in his truck right before PT formation when it was cold outside in that small parking lot right across from the Special Warfare Training Battalion and just chew the fat until formation. Since I was a young PFC at the time going through the course, he was always quick to help a newbie like me with little things like taping up my rucksack properly and giving guidance for the myriad tactical things that I had not yet learned.  He was an excellent soldier and a good friend that I will never forget.

Hollway and Bigler were also in training with me - I still remember both well. 

RIP to all. They will live on as long as our collective memories of these brave men live on.



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"They will live on as long as our collective memories of these brave men live on."

That is what I say all the time. Thanks for posting.

They are not forgotten!
DaveT

 
devndeb

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Freefalldoc...Kind words...and thank you...I WAS one of those "Kids" that was there guarding the site...I happened to come across this forum while researching a paper for my Masters in Aeronautics. I'll never forget those days and I'm sure I talked to you!  Yes, were were VERY respectful and mindful of our mission there.  We were the first cops on the scene and the last to leave about 5 days later.  We had to keep people from taking souveners from the crash.  I couldn't believe someone would be so crass, but you never know.  It was trully a bad night.  To the forum members who had friends/relatives on that flight...rest easy...they were in good hands after the crash...myself and the other cops oout there made sure of it...and we NEVER forgot why we were there.

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