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jobob

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I would say that you are most likely correct. The winds were blowing at 100kts from the west. It would take a military or Noaa aircraft with very strong sensing gear to search that area. I am going to contact the senators from Iowa. The pilot and co-pilot were from Iowa.There names were Ralph Touch the pilot and James Kuhn the co-pilot  That will be the place to start. One thing though make it very clear to the staffer you talk to that you do not want them to pass you off to the mia search teams because they do not deal with non-combat  missing people. I tried to interest some news agencies in this story. When I called the associated press in New York city the woman hung up on me with in one minute. Anyway give it a try and I will ramp it up this month.
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My dad was in the Air Force stationed in Chile at the time of the crash involving the C-47.  My brothers and I spent three years there as young kids and still remember the day of the tragic crash and disappearance of the C-47 military aircraft.  My parents often spoke of their friendship with SSGT Ball and Colonel Mooney.  They no doubt knew others on the flight as well.  We were all shocked at the time and had always hoped that the wreckage would be found.  The crash and disappearance was widely publicized in the news in Chile.  Weather conditions reportedly were not good.  Unfortunately, the crash site was never located.   By some stroke of luck I came across this blog site and saw the postings so I thought I would share my memories.  It is great to see the information shared here by others.
BBurris

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My dad was in the Air Force stationed in Chile at the time of the crash involving the C-47.  My brothers and I spent three years there as young kids and still remember the day of the tragic crash and disappearance of the C-47 military aircraft.  My parents often spoke of their friendship with SSGT Ball and Colonel Mooney (both passengers along with their wives on the flight).  They no doubt knew others on the flight as well.  We were all shocked at the time and had always hoped that the wreckage would be found.  The crash and disappearance was widely publicized in the news in Chile.  Weather conditions reportedly were not good.  Unfortunately, the crash site was never located.   By some stroke of luck I came across this blog site and saw the postings so I thought I would share my memories.  It is great to see the information shared here by others.
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I am a news photographer and writer in Orange County, California working freelance.

Generally, because of family, I spend about 3 to 4 months a year in Chile and other Latin American countries.  This missing C-47 in Chile from 1969 came across my alerts yesterday and in reviewing it, the effort to end the mystery of what took place seems an honorable and good thing to do so I would like to help out and in addition from a news perspective, the story is very compelling.

I cannot say what will happen but from my experience in Chile over the years, finding the C-47, seems very doable.  My guess is that it will take between 2 and 4 years to locate if not more.

My priority would be to first find the wreckage and then, in a news fashion, chronicle the work efforts to locate the C-47 and its recovery.  Sometimes there is a story there which in this case I believe there is but then sometimes there isn't so it's best to see how it unfolds.

I will be in Chile beginning in mid April 2012 for about 2 months or so and would ask that anyone with information contact me via my email so we can talk and co-ordinate what ever information you might have as it would be great to have something to start with right away.

David Bro
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BBurris

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Missing U.S. Navy C-47, BUNR that went missing in Chile on August 4, 1969:

I have been corresponding with a reporter who works for El Mercurio (Online) ---largest newspaper in Chile--based in Santiago, Chile who has expressed interest in this incident and wants to contact surviving family members.  I am hoping the word will get to surviving family members with this posting.  Please respond so that I can possible help establish a link between you and the reporter in an attempt to renew interest in finding the missing aircraft and helping bring closure to family members of those who perished.  

I have also written to the Chilean Air Force but unfortunately they have not expressed a desire to re-investigate.

I can be reached at either:

siezetheidea@gmail.com

B. Burris
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BUNR  17254
Yotep

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Hello everyone,

Today (May 6th 2012) the main Chilean newspaper published an article on this lost plane  indicating that 40 years later, it is still missing. You can find the article here http://www.emol.com/noticias/nacional/2012/05/04/538840/otro-teniente-bello-la-historia-del-avion-militar-de-eeuu-que-se-extravio-en-chile.html and it includes images from the newspaper back in'69 plus some Navy docs about the search.  It is in Spanish, but hey, nowadays a lot of people in the US are bilingual. Hope this helps in some way. Saludos from Santiago.
DavidBro

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Good morning,

As a freelancer, I have been researching the disappearance of the USNavy C-47 and while I have not come up with anything directly---as I said in a earlier comment, it will take at least a couple of years to track down---the story of what took place is a compelling.  I am hoping to go into the area at some point although I am really in need of talking with remaining family members in order to have as much information as possible.  

It's a slow process and really must start with the impact, past and present, of those family members.  Interest in what took place will go beyond those directly affected or out as far as those today within the military in a general sense---only with several stories on the event and those family members----I don't believe that one story is going to prevail upon authorities to go beyond what would ordinarily be routine.

In addition, there are those, Chilean and American, that most likely remember the day and have valuable information that could shed light or provide details that, when connected, point in the right direction of where to start.

Again, if you are reading this and are a family member or know one, please refer refer them to me so we can begin to un-peel the events of that day----hopefully leading to the eventual discovery of the plane.

David Bro
Orange County, California.
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AZTrailer47

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Thank you, Yotep, for the hot link to  the EMOL news story.  This is great background material.  Having worked at La Serena, Banos del Toro and Iquique, it's really interesting to see this much archival material preserved on this notorious disappearance - not the first nor the last along the Cordillera.

FYI, Google has a translate feature that works, well, "well enough!"

Steve O.
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joe baughers serials list BuNo#17254

 

17254 (c/n 25629) to Thai AF as 254, converted to Basler BT 67.  Lost on a flight over the Andes Mountains Aug 4, 1969.  Wreck never found

 

Terence

BFernandes

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My cousin recently found this message board and sent a link to me. My mother was one of the passengers on this plane. I realize it has been about 10 months since the last post on this subject but I was wondering if anyone has any additional information to share.

Thanks,
Barbara
hydro

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I was in Brasilia with the U.S. Air Force at the time of the disappaearance of the C-47 on 4 August, 1969. We flew RC-130's for photomapping and geodetic survey purposes in cooperation with Brazil. We were asked to take one of our RC-130's down to Santiago, Chile and photograph the area where they thought the C-47 was lost. We spent several days taking photography that could be looked at in length in the following days. We returned to Brasilia but never heard any results of the search. I have often wondered whether the plane was found. I have looked online for various news stories but with no results until today when I saw the wreckchasers bulletin board. We flew our normal missions at 25,000 feet and looking at the vast expanses of snow and mountain tops I can see why the search was so difficult especially with all of the new snow that occurred after the plane was lost. Yet, I am amazed that the plane has not been found after this length of time. I doubt that I have any useful information but I can be contacted at my e-mail jcolmer@aol.com
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Hi All- A fellow research Pal and I are very interested in the search for this aircraft.
My niche area of experience is locating US service members' families (mostly WWII era and Air crashes) and while Air Force and Army are very easy, Navy and other branches can be a bit tricky although not impossible.

Anyone can reach me via this message board or via findagrave-

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=mr&MRid=47391745&

Email is listed there (I try to avoid posting a direct url mailto link).

I hope that this aircraft can be found!!
Let me know how I/We can help this effort.

-Jana
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Tech1

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I have just recently read the blogs attached to the missing C-47 aircraft.  I went to Google Earth to see what if anything I could see about the area that the aircraft went missing.  I came across the attached image that is eight miles east of Sewell and at 11,975 feet.  It appears to be two bright white objects with a larger object between them.  It looks as if it could be the fuselage, wings with both engines of an aircraft that are fairly intact. I thought that I would put this out there for all to see and maybe get some feedback. 

Thanks,

Paul

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B24CoPilotNiece

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Hi Tech1 - Thanks for your post with the image. Interesting!
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