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luoseno

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I know this is an old post but I was up on that mountain shortly after the crash was on the SAR team.
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luoseno
Please tell use what you remember about the site and any rumors you heard about the accident. 
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Hello, I just happened to find this forum by chance. I have never joined a forum before now. I felt compelled to do so because a lot of what is being said about the Dean Paul Martin crash site here is NOT correct. I was there. I was head of the search and recovery team at that site. There is no field or forest or confetti or plane parts or craters or ANY sign of the crash. That plane hit the solid rock face of the mountain 30-60 feet from the peak. That impact/explosion "powdered" the plane. The biggest part of the plane I saw at the site was about the size of a watermelon. It was a piece of the engine. We got to the peak on a "Huey" and had to jump out onto the peak, there is no landing there! Then climb down to the site. No one has ever driven a jeep to this site! This crash was on the peak of a mountain! It seems to me that a lot of people have the wrong crash site. I was there and the descriptions people have given for this site are NOT the place I picked up the people and plane parts at. Just sayn, I think the public has been told the incorrect site...
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I served in the 507th TFG at TInker AFB, OK as a POL troop. One of the NCOs in our squadron was a POL lab troop at March AFB at the time of the accident and he had to take a crash kit to this site to recover a fuel sample. As I recall, he said that due to the extensive damage to the A/C he was unable to recover a fuel sample and tests were instead run on the fuel in the refueling unit used to service his aircraft .

Also on the internet there are several wedding pictures of Dorothy Hammill and Dean Paul Martin credited to Getty images. He's wearing his mess dress uniform and in the shots where his rank is visible it appears to be the insignia of a 1st Lt. and he!s wearing no ribbons, only his wings.
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Just found the same image I color. It looks like a 2nd Lt.'s gold bar.
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Hello,  my name is Ray and Capt. Ramon Ortiz was my father.  I am interested in visiting the site or getting hold of crash site photos.  My mother was able to obtain copies of the crash investigation and I have them.  If you were there or have visited, I would be interested in talking with you.  My email is ortizr@interact.ccsd.net.
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Ray, are you still watching this site?
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Well apparently so I got your message in an email. I assume you are interested in the fact that I was on search and recovery for Dean Paul Martin's crash. I will answer anything I can. I will speak to only what I know from my experience. I will not repeat false information.
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FlyBynite, were you with the Huey's that came down from Edwards, or another unit?
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Does anyone have a copy of the accident report 
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Pictures of the crash site?
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Dave, email sent to you.
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DaveTrojan, can you also send report to me so I know what is "out there."  Please.
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There is not much out there. All I have is the cover page of the accident report and a few poor quality aerial photos. No further Official information. Someone needs to request via FOIA a copy of the accident report. 
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I would like to see the photos. I can tell you if is the right site. I was TSgt in charge of recovery team. There was NO visable crash from the air.
That would be why it took almost a week to locate. He missed the peak by about 30 feet.
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FLyBynite, again, what unit were you with?
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