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singoto

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Hi, everyone.

Today, I went to Delamar Dry Lake (about 80 miles North of Las Vegas, NV) for hoping to locate the F-100A (53-1567).

Unfortunately, I couldn't find the crash site, but on my way back to the car, I accidentally found some air plane crash parts.

It was about a mile from where I was originally expected F-100A crash site, yet its in the same area.

I walked around the area for 20 min and found about 15 pcs of small metal pieces.

Its all finger size through palm size.
Some metal was melted from the heat.
So, it must had crashed and burnt.

And there was no stamps but I found one markings that is "071-606-197 HA 6061"
(it was on the metal pieces of 2nd pic)

Do you think those are from F-100?
I also know there was F-111 crash somewhere on this Dry Lake.
Is it possible from F-111?

What do you think?

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The F-100 had large glass lenses for its position lights blended into its wingtips and that's a pretty good sized piece of green glass you found. Its thickness and curvature seem to be from something fairly large
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The white plastic thing is a countermeasures flare (F-16 or F-15). MJU-7A/B
It's the "S&I" or Safe & Initiator fitting into the bottom of the rectangular flare body.

The first piece has a circular cut-out to save weight.  Like for a wing rib or spar.  Or maybe flap rib, something like that?

I wonder if HA 6061 is the just the aluminum alloy 

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  Regarding the safe / initiator you found those are all over down here.  I have found a thousand of them.

  I think i have posted these photos before, but as this is a new subject, i found an intact flare a few years back.  You can see the outline of the safe / initiator in the first pic.

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WooHoo!!  All those parts on the lakebed have skunked me and others for years, but today i found either the crash site or at least where a scrapper hauled stuff to for smelting.  Found about 100 small pieces in a 20' x 30' area.  Unfortunately though nothing with a part number !!!!!

  The area is some distance from the lakebed so this cannot be anything from the drug running cessna type planes that were scuttled on the lake back in the 1970's.

  I originally thought the gold tubing might be fuel line or something but when i picked it up i noticed that it is not tubing - Its not sealed.  If you look at the last pic you can see the seam.  For some reason i want to think its an antenna.

  The insulation with the part number is our biggest clue:  

TIGHITCO Insulation Products Group
The Insulation Products Group began in 1944 as part of the H. I. Thompson Company. In 1960 a new facility was opened in Atlanta, Georgia and the name was changed to HITCO.

  So we know the aircraft and this crash are from 1960 or later.  Puzzling in that i found no honeycomb aluminum or turbine blades. 

  Calling all the wreck chasing legends:  Walt, JR, AAIR, pete merlin, tony moore, joe idoni, sam parker, dave trojan, don jordan, pat macha, mike mccomb, brad gray, chris baird.  Between all of us we have to be able to figure this out.  What is this plane ?!?
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"Production of all super sabers was completed in 1959"

https://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/detail.asp?aircraft_id=114

If that is correct then it can not be an F100 ...
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Yes, definitely too beefy to be from the drug running Cessna! Looks jet to me with the TIGHITCO Insulation. With the detective work you did, I think we can rule out the F-100 up there, so it is looking like the F-111 is the most likely candidate. 


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WaltW

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The 360641-10 metal thermal insulation crosses to an NSN.  End using system listed as F-4.

1560-00-258-4116   1560   002584116   Insulation Pipe Covering, Thermal

1560-00-258-4116 Component / End Item

WPN SYS IDWPN SYS SVCWEAPON SYSTEM
02FAircraft, Phantom F-4


The block with the flanged two slot object is part of a radar or ECM system.  The slotted flange is a waveguide.

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NSN = ?

Navy serial number ?

I know of 5 phantom crashes in this valley but all sites have been found.  I dont know of any phantoms in the area this would match.  Further less any navy phantoms, assuming thats what NSN means

The mystery deepens ...

Thanks Walt

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NSN = National Stock Number.  Federal supply system.
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A group of us went out and excavated the site on tuesday.  Didnt find anything that tells us exactly which site this is but did find a few interesting parts.  Any ideas what these two are? 20200107_133850.jpg  20200107_134058.jpg  20200107_134118.jpg  20200107_134126.jpg  MICROMEGA.jpg  AIR ARM.jpg  Top View.jpg
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Could it be a UHF channel indicator similar to this?

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I wonder if these things are cable runs or fairlead blocks.
Called control cable phenolic block guides or something like that.  
They look insulated so maybe wiring block guides?

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The thing with the square hole in it is a wave guide used with the radar system
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That is a lot of radar wave guide parts and cable connectors, maybe you found the remains of a ground based radar target simulator. The gears look like they would control the direction of the emitter.
The location was used for training
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