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denperk58

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Hello Chris item 1 is an American 700mph airspeed indicator as used in P-51 Mustangs , P-47 Thunderbolts etc , part 23 (reply 12) with Triumph motorcycle connections maybe from the auxiliary power unit used on Lancasters. it was a 500cc alloy twin , the top end of which was used on the Triumph 500 G.P racer. To add to an already confused situation, I posted earlier a piece of Westinghouse American electrics company (reply 11 item 21), I have photographed all the other red/brown relics in my collection are any of them part of Westinghouse aircraft components, or Dubilier a British manufacturer of electrics (part I4 in red items) apparently the Dubilier factory was bombed in October 1940, and the works badly damaged during the Battle of Britain. There is a very good website selling electrical parts both wartime and post-war parts worth a look.

http://www.mullardmagic.co.uk/

Thanks again for your help

Dennis

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denperk58

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The aircraft relics I got from Germany was supposed to be from Avro Lancaster SR-R "DV276" flown by Pilot Officer John Batten-Smith D.F.C of No. 101 Squadron RAF lost on the Nuremberg raid, The aircraft was shot down by the Luftwaffe ace Oberleutnant Helmuth Schulte of II./NJG 5 at 01.25 near the autobahn at Röthenbach, which was 16 kilometers East North East of Nürnberg. All eight crew members died. Later after the war during construction on a building site, on the scene of the crash, the Lancaster was discovered, and the aircraft parts were recovered, and were identified by an aviation historian. I have been trying to gather information on the excavation and who carried it out, but have had no luck so far. There is no doubt Lancaster parts among all the relics but pinpointing Batten-Smiths aircraft parts is as you can see a bit difficult, as there are loads of other aircraft parts American, British which I don't actually mind if only they were labelled!

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           John Batten-Smith as a Sergeant (later promoted)

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                                                    Batten-Smith and his crew

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Oberleutnant Helmuth Schulte of II./NJG 5 who later received the Knight's Cross







denperk58

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In post 13 part 3 is a dial for a bomb steering indicator from an RAF bomber, the IIRC was used in combination with earlier bombsites and was discontinued when the MK XIV was introduced. In post 6 part 9 it is a balance weight for rudder trim, what aircraft it was fitted was it fitted on? I have photographed the few surviving fabric relics probably parachute, seating, ect, (thanks to Peter and Cees for the id of parts 3 - 9)

Dennis


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denperk58

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Part 46 looks like a part of a glove? 47-48 part of a flight jacket?

Dennis
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Items 4 and 5 (post 16) the red/brown relics could they be part of a fuse box similar to, or even be parts of a fuse box belonging to a Short Stirling circa 1943? I found a similar piece of relic online item 01 it seems to be made of similar material as the parts 4 and 5. Part 5 has a reference number (s. p. 5) 36 0 2477

Dennis

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denperk58

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Here are a few more relics. Item 50, hinged panel front, Serial No. SSPK? (AMY?) back Serial No. 106-141?6FR?8 1 25 Item 51, inscription incomplete front Serial No. –T---L?CLAD 2?43?-T back Serial No. 106-31178 ASSEM (A ? A) Assem possible German relic, possibly not even wartime? Item 52 is two of three buttons from a H2S radar from a Pathfinder 1943?

Dennis

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denperk58

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With the help of the forums, I am beginning to piece together some aircraft parts, there seems to be enough information to conclude there are P-51 Mustang relics within my collection, it would be great if there was.

Thanks to all the forum members help so far

And Chris (post 15) That T-handle thing is driving you crazy! If its item 12 post 6 you mean, according to another forum member they are parts from one of the batteries (accumulators) which aircraft they don’t say.

Dennis


Post 6 item 2 is a U.S fuel cap as used on P51 Mustangs.

Post 11 Item 21 control cable pulley aircraft type has the name Westinghouse an American electrics company possible P-51.

Post 12 item 29 DME Indicator is from another American company Rockwell, possible P-51

Post 13 item 1 is an American 700mph airspeed indicator as used in P-51 Mustangs

Post 21 item 51, P-51D Mustang part numbers begin with 106

 

 

denperk58

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Here are some more items from my collection, Buckles & Brackets, I believe the light green buckles are from the headset of a crew members.

Dennis

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denperk58

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Item 77 is a flare strap buckle, and item 84 is a bomb carrier crutch. 68 appears to be an American lap belt release and 69 the mounting end of the same belt. items 72 looks like part of a US parachute so the items all tie in together with my P-51 theory! Items 80-81 are a part of an RAF oxygen/goggles set, item 79 looks like part of the oxygen assembly, and item 80 according to the person that recovered the relics, is the link between the goggles and the strap, I can find no evidence but the part looks similar to others online.

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denperk58

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Some more from my collection they are the only plastic/perspex pieces, they seemed to be from a bomb/navigation system item 30, ← (5° = 20m.) ALTITUDES SHOWN BY RINGS 20°-70° AZIMUTHS SHOWN BY RAYS 0°-360°. Item 31, 1. SET QU--- 2. ADJUST---hold planis--- view stars—compare st---(in vertical---) item 32, slow running cut out, item 33, airscrew tethering/feathering? Item 34 two pieces of the same? GEAR RELEASE OFF?

Dennis

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The curved T handle reminds me of a "Flaps" actuator because of its flap like shape and the detents on it. The other T handle was probably somewhere nearby of the control panel or console (maybe speedbrakes, spoilers....?)
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denperk58

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Do you mean item 12 post 11, I replied that someone identified them as something to do with a battery, which seemed unlikely but I'm no expert. Which aircraft do you think they come from?

Dennis
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This thread seems to have run its course, so I shall end it here. When I got the box of relics from Germany I thought I was getting the remains of a Avro Lancaster of No 101 Squadron, researching the aircraft relics I believed it was from a Lancaster flown by Plt/Off Batten-Smith lost on the Nuremberg raid on 31 March 1944, there probably are relics of his aircraft among my collection, but on inspection of the items, I found more than Lancaster relics, there are also other RAF aircraft and US aircraft parts that are included, which initially I thought was great, however it makes identifying the parts of the Lancaster of 101 Squadron near impossible, so I will not be presenting their association with any relics from one of their aircraft for their 100th anniversary. I would like to thank the many people on the forum for their time in identifying some of the items, I have been impressed by their technical knowledge, keen eye of observation, and the patience study on the subject matter, and it made me realize I’m not cut out to be an aviation archaeologist as I have none of these three attributes. So I will be selling all the relics on eBay, hopefully the forum members will find something of interest among the items on offer.

Thanks again

Dennis

I can’t resist one more question before I go; the Avro Lancaster was an all metal construction where did these wooden pieces come from?

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denperk58

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All my items up for sale on eBay many I haven't listed on this forum. You can identify and own a piece of aviation history.

http://my.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...K:ME:LNLK:MESX

Thanks again for your help

Dennis
denperk58

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Nearly completed listings on eBay, but have two items that are really bugging me that I cant find any details about them. Can any forum member help me out? Item 1 a piece of metal maybe from engine? Serial No. (CT013) MK.VC (Air Ministry) 6D/483MN 4/43 17 94 96 Item 2 a Altitude indicator from which aircraft?

Dennis

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