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denperk58

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I recently received a box of aircraft relics from Germany. It was suppose to contain wreckage from a RAF Lancaster which crashed on the 31 March 1944 (the Nuremberg raid). It should be a straight forward matter, however on inspection there seems to be other aircraft parts within the contents of the box. On inspection there are Spitfire, Halifax, and I presume an early jet aircraft. It would be a great help if the forum members could help me sort out this mess.

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Dennis

This item could be a bomb aimers release handle or a late mark Spitfire wobble pump?

1st photo is the part I have
2nd photo is the bomb aimers release handle?
3rd photo is the late mark Spitfire fuel wobble pump?

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ChrisBaird

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Could it be those prop pitch levers below the throttles on the center column?

Chris B.

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denperk58

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Hello Chris thanks for the reply. I don't think it is the prop pitch control, as you can see from pictures below, my lever has a ball shape on the end, the levers below the throttle controls are a flat shape.

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Dennis

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denperk58

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Here are a few more Lancaster/Spitfire relics from my collection possible 1, Gyro compass, 2 fuel cap, 3 dial

Thanks for your help

Dennis

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denperk58

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I should have posted this item first as to give some idea as to what I thought I wad buying from Germany

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denperk58

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Some more wreckage for identification would like your help. Some of the green relics are painted a darker green than others which leads me to think the parts are from different aircraft.

Thanks Dennis

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WaltW

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The round object with the letting including "Gyro Day", "Gyro Night" and "Selector Dimmer" appears to be the Selector Dimmer control for a gunner's Mk-18 gunsight.  The document I found referencing it is for a US aircraft, I don't know if British aircraft used them.

https://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USN/ref/AirGunnery/MARK18GS.html

The paint color on some of the structure members does look "Lanc-ish"... 

http://www.aussiemodeller.com.au/pages/History/Aircraft/D-Hol_LancasterP1.html

Walt
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I think the object labeled #2 is a fuel tank cap from the top of the wing
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The object labeled #4 looks like a magneto switch. You have two #17's, the lower one is a faring for a possible antenna and a shot of #12 from the front, would be helpful.
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denperk58

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Thanks for the replies most helpful. I think I should post the aircraft plates that came with the relics Plate 1, Halifax bomber Serial No. 7498B1 ISS4 D & B/FM/07227 (D & B 98) Plate 2, Lancaster resistance unit Type 52 Ref No. IOC/2?96 Plate 3, Spitfire engine oil cooler plate Drawing-N IDD081 30 Test pressure 70 LBS Serial No. JM/P/78811, Plate 4, Stirling bomber Serial No. SH4?555 Origin No. 1290001 Date 1SS11. It makes sense that item 9 is a Spitfire fuel wobble pump if it matches plate 3, also among the relics are three rounds of ammo (item 22) two 303 and one 20mm, the 20mm is probably Spitfire ammo? And the American connection could be seen in item 21 part of a dial made by the US electrics company Westinghouse.

Dennis

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denperk58

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Here are some more shots of item 12 requested, the ammo, and Westinghouse.

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denperk58

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The mystery deepens I took some pictures of what I thought was parts of a Lancaster engine casing, and two names are on the pieces, part 23 reads "BOHNAUTE 6006" when I searched the internet the name came up for BSA/Norton/Triumph motorcycles, the other name is on part 26 "Acme 602181" did either company make aircraft parts during the war? And the American Rockwell item part 29 I found, was it installed in US or British aircraft?

Dennis

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denperk58

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Some more US parts in the relics, there are four aircraft instrument dials all from a jet I presume? Item 1, is a airspeed dial reading 0-700 mph (some of the inscriptions on dial not clear or missing) AF US ARMY
YPB? F or P? airspeed MPH, item 2 altimeter 0-40,000 feet, top of dial incomplete name ??pec?? bottom of dial REF N- ?D/243, center of dial ALT Serial No , THOUSANDS FEET,  item 3, turn indicator 0-35 (some of the inscriptions on dial not clear or missing) 3/40, REF NO. ?/579, item 4 accelerator g unit no markings. All the performance on the dials are beyond a Lancaster any any other aircraft of WW2, so the dials must be from post-war aircraft.

Dennis

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ChrisBaird

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#1 might be a P-51 airspeed indicator.

That March 30 1944 raid on Nuremberg, they lost 106 bombers!???
Did they tell you which Lanc this might be?

Earlier photos -- #14, looks like a servo valve.  Does it have a plunger in the center?   Could be anything from guns, turret, engine start?

#11 -- aluminum plumbing -- fuel, hyd.

Twine could be from a canteen cork or something like that.

Thought maybe the geared round part was a vane type nose fuse for a bomb but it is probably an instrument.

Sure is a great mish mash of parts!   [smile]

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ChrisBaird

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Posted  #15 
That T-handle thing is driving me crazy!

I bet it is a bomb release or jettison of some kind.

Looks like it had a cable on the end of it.  Is there a thumb hold so you can turn it?

Gotta be a yank and forget thing.

????

Chris B.
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