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DaveTrojan

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What on Earth?
Aircraft wreck(s) Greenland
a couple of stories recounted


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Well, they kind of jerked our chain with all the B-17 story, but I knew up front from the shape of the protruding wing that it wasn't a B-17.  It does bring up 2 questions: So what about the B-17 that they do mention.  It is obviously separate from the Bolero planes. Anybody have any insight?
And I've always wondered why no effort was made to recover parts from the remains of Kee Bird.  That was 4 new R3350s and as I recall 4 extremely hard to get propellers.  While we now have 2 B-29s flying ("Fi-Fi" and "Doc"), there is a 3rd one waiting (Kermit Weeks / Fantasy of Flight).  I doubt those engines are worth anything now and the props are damaged.  What a shame.  Dennis
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Hello Dennis

And I've always wondered why no effort was made to recover parts from the remains of Kee Bird.

  Speculation on my part but probably multiple reasons:

  If you go back and watch the "Frozen in time" video, in the first 15 seconds they show one of the props still on the aircraft and the ends are folded over so at least one and probably all of the props were trashed. 



  This also indicates that power was on at the time of impact, and as we learned at one of the wreck chasing conventions from brian ( Cant remember last name ) if power is on when a prop hits the ground it can bend the crankshaft and pop off cylinder heads.

  By 1947 jets were taking over and most of the B29s left were headed for the scrapyard.

  The cost and risk of recovery was probably more than any recoverable parts were worth.

  And lastly, mounting a recovery effort might cue the soviets in to what and where the kee bird was doing.

  The more surprising aspect of the kee bird to me is that the USAF did not scuttle the aircraft to destroy any electronics that might be compromised if found.

  Thats just what i think ... 

  
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Oh, I fully understand why the USAF didn't do any recovery (I'm sure they recovered any sensitive stuff, and it appears that they removed the upper guns).  My question was why didn't any recover parts from the attempted recovery? As I mentioned brand new engines (the recovery team did get one of the original engines running), brand new props.  Maybe salvage expense exceeded value.  Just a shame seeing all that "new" go to waste.   Dennis
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My question was why didn't any recover parts from the attempted recovery?

  Oh.  Yeah i guess i can see what you mean now.  To be fair to me though, most of the wrecks we discuss on this board are not crash landed, abandoned ( In really good condition ) for 60 years, restored to flying condition then burned and dumped in a lake.  

  I know you can still see part of the kee bird in the picture dave first posted, but i seem to recall from other pics that much of it is submerged so when you asked about recovery my mind went to recovering it after the USAF abandoned it.
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Yeah, apparently when the original crew bellied it in, it was in a higher location,  From the original pictures, there had been standing water (black stains on the ice), but not as deep as where it sits now.  Again, after the fire, it was sitting high and dry, and that would have been the time for recovery.  Now, while some parts are salvageable, the engines and props are trashed.  As I recall, someone on this board did visit the site in a helicopter a few years ago and made several pictures.  It hurt to watch that video again.  Dennis
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