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To order accident reports from the Air Force use this information:

The Air Force Safety Center maintains U.S. Air Force mishaps from 1 January 1956 to present. As you may know, Mr. Louie Alley has passed on.  Now use general delivery address for the safety center to order reports per Colonel Vadnais, HQAFSC

  
HQAFSCJA@kirtland.af.mil

For anything prior to 1 January 1956, they are maintained at the Historical Research Agency at Maxwell AFB, AL.  Email: afhranews@maxwell.af.mil

But I recommend using AAIR for better faster service for reports prior to
 1 Jan 1956 at
http://www.aviationarchaeology.com/

There is no required format, but the more details that you provide the quicker they can find any responsive records.
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I agree with you Dave. You get much better service from Craig at AAIR. I've ordered a few reports from the Air Force and have waiting up to 6 months before. Also I'm not sure if this is something new or not but they actually requesting I not ask for more then 3 at a time.

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There is a new Public Information Officer at the USAF Safety Center and it will be awhile before they are up to speed, so do not order too many at a time.
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I used to just go right to Louie's desk and ask for photocopies of the reports I was looking for.  His desk was next door to the storage room where the "Green Monster's" were all kept on the east end of the 2nd floor.

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"Green Monsters"?  Do tell.  Dennis

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Green Monsters are the large binders the mishap reports are contained in. Depending on the investigation, the "monsters" can be quite large!

We used the actual "monsters" to study investigations when I went to AMIC in 2007. I also got to meet Louie...what a helluva guy he was...

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Being old school AF, I still call them Green Monsters.  As of about 2005ish, the AF changed the binders, and they're called like White Elephants or something like that.

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Had to make sure that you weren't talking about aliens (space aliens).  Dennis
(I'm actually not into space aliens or the boogey man)
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This is the address for the historical branch at Maxwell AFB

 

AFHRA / RSA

600 Chennault Circle

Maxwell AFB AL 36112-6424

 

For ordering material on Microfilm add:

Attention: Microfilm Orders

 

For example: Air Base history is on microfilm. They have some good info and (microfilm) pictures of many Air Bases.

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Just to give everybody an update, if you buy microfilm reels of accident reports from AFHRA/RSA, they no longer send you 16mm microfilm. "Reels" are now cds.  One cd (or reel) costs $30 and contains approximately 200 accident reports (approximately 2000 images) in pdf format.  The image quality of the pdfs can range from poor to outstanding.  FYI, cm
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Rather than start a new thread, I thought I'd add to this one. 

Maybe you guys are already aware of this, but I recently came across this site:

If you do a search for "AIRCRAFT ACCIDENT AND INCIDENT REPORTS" you can get a listing of aircraft mishaps and reel numbers. 

Below is an example of what turns up for reel 46129.


This list also cross references the specific AAF mishap report number which is nice, for instance, 43-10-5-1.

Another potential research tool. fyi, cm

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As to the quality of the images of the CDs I will let you be the judge.

Go to
https://www.yousendit.com/download/MFo2WUhvQTZFc0kwTVE9PQ
and compare the USAF scans from a CD I was sent versus the AAIR scans I made from the microfilm reel with our high-res scanner. (I sent the CD back and requested microfilm).

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Sorry to hear the reports were bad, but glad you sent them back. I just received a batch of CDs from 1918-1940. I was expecting the worst since these are the reports from the AFHRA that are in alphabetical order by pilot name (early reports).  I also ordered some from 1942. I was expecting the worse, but to my surprise, the quality was pretty good. 
 
Sample P-40 crash photo from 1942

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