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DaveTrojan

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Found this at F-89 s/n 54-0225, crashed 1956 Arizona BGR

The F-89 collided with "rag target" towed by a B-45.

I think this is the remains of the "rag target". 
It is a pole with attachment points along it and a heavy weight at the bottom.

I'm looking for pictures of this kind of target in use.
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ChrisBaird

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Must be the spreader bar at the front of the banner with a weight at the bottom to keep the target vertical.
I think you can make out a similar weight in this photo.

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Just out of curiosity I looked up the tail number of that B-57.  Both crew were killed when it rolled and went in on landing approach to Shaw AFB 14 Oct 1971.

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Amazing they were using 
B-45s and B-57s to tow targets
what a waste of a bomber aircraft.

I'm still looking for more info about the tow targets  
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The 4750 Tow Target Squadron at Yuma flew eight B-45A target tugs. They towed 9'x 45' target sleeves, with two radar reflectors attached for the interceptor fire control systems to lock onto.

Probably similar to the attached document, but a slightly newer configuration.

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  Those things are so common around here i dont even bother to pick them up anymore.  Have found a few with the "Cough drop" style weight, but 99% of the ones i find have the "Can" type weight. 

  I found one with the target that had not deployed.  Looked like a big reel of the same type of material a screen door is made of.  Cant find a pic of it now though.

  Found this on the west side of gass peak.  Looks like it got dinged by a few 50 cal rounds (There is another bullet hole on the other side).


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That's pretty cool, with the bullet ding in it.  Nice shooting!

it looks just like the one at the F-89 site on the Yuma Range.

I'm thinking they are just banner-type targets.  The wire mesh that you describe must be radar reflective.
A sleeve target would have another pole to form the frame at the open, front end of the sleeve.

Are the ones you find bent or straight?   This F-89 hit the target.  The spreader bar is bent.  I wondered if the F-89 hit the bar or if it just bent when it hit the ground.

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I found this one on the Yuma Range a long time ago.  Has radar reflectors built onto it.  Don't know what kind of target it is though.  Might be sleeve or a target glider/drone frame or something.

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Nice shooting!

  Not nice.  That means they were getting really close to the tow aircraft !!  Probably why the next gen of tow targets had a much longer cable  (1000' for darts ?  I think ).


Are the ones you find bent or straight?

  Straight.

  A few pics attached.  The first one is one of the old "Pendulum" type weights.

  The second two are of one of those radar reflectors i found near gass peak.

  The last is of the center piece end of a dart tow target.  I think this is a type of radar reflector as well.

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thanks for the replys
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