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Registered: 12/10/06
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While looking through various databases I noticed a few aircraft had been in as many as three reported accidents. Anyone know of an airframe record for most reported accidents before finally being written off? How about a record number of accident reports for the same pilot? Accidentreport.com shows Frank Alden bent up three H-5s in about a year('50-'51) out of Ladd Field Alaska; two in a month. Since that was pretty much the rotary wing Model A of its time I'll give him the benefit of the doubt on fault. 


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I've only seen 2 at most in my work.  A trainee P-38 pilot wrecked 2 P-38s due to serious mistakes at Muroc within a week.  The 2nd report specifically stated recommendation of removal from pilot status.  Here's your rifle son, you're an Infantryman now...  Another pilot wrecked a P-38 in training at Muroc, survived the war, then was killed in an AT-17 crash near Victorville after the war.

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Thanks for responding Walt; the C54 in the Silent Heroes thread was involved in an accident in I believe Greenland or Iceland a year before it was written off.
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SSgt. George E. Larkin (Doolittle Raider) and 2Lt. Max F. West were involved in two B-25 accidents a couple of hours apart.  They did not survive the second accident. 


http://www.doolittleraider.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=86&t=400


And Lt. D.R. Wilson was involved in two P-47 mid-air collisions two days in a row (Sept 9 and 10, 1943).  He survived both. 

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I've only seen 2 at most in my work.  A trainee P-38 pilot wrecked 2 P-38s due to serious mistakes at Muroc within a week.  The 2nd report specifically stated recommendation of removal from pilot status.  Here's your rifle son, you're an Infantryman now...  Another pilot wrecked a P-38 in training at Muroc, survived the war, then was killed in an AT-17 crash near Victorville after the war.
 
 
WALT,

Was the first pilot Lt. George C. Rogers?  This pilot was prohibited from P-38 flying because of his involvment in P-38 accidents at Muroc.  He was killed in an unauthorized P-38 flight on 4 Oct 1943 at Glendale, CA. 


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Anthony,  the pilot was 2Lt. George R. Kinney.  Put the landing gear legs through the booms on a botched single engine approach and landing, then 4 days later retracted the gear prematurely on takeoff and struck another '38 off charge.  There was also SSgt. Leonard Pratt, who had the electrical system in the cockpit of a P-38 short out and fill the cockpit with smoke.  Landing gear wouldn't come down so he bellied in on the lakebed at Muroc doing serious damage to the plane.  4 days later he was taking off when bad points caused misfiring and failure of the left engine of another P-38 and the right engine's intake ducting blew off due to a backfire.  He bellied into the desert shortly after takeoff.  Bad luck but kept himself alive.  The War survivor was Lawrence P. Leibers.  Had a P-38 overheat both engines and quit on him, bellying in at Muroc in early 1942.  Then in August 1946 he flew an AT-7C into a microburst under a storm cell near Victorville and crashed, killing himself and one other.

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Just today I did a search on an F-80 and it ended up having 6 accidents. I also have a picture of a Luke P-40 that had been involved in 5 or 6 accidents.

Date

ACType

AAFSN

STA

Action

D

Pilot

Cnty

State

Location

490912

F-80A

44-85225

Las Vegas AFB, NV

MF

2

Slack, Clarence V Jr

USA

NV

40M N Las Vegas, NV

491012

F-80A

44-85225

Las Vegas AFB, NV

EF

3

Wescott, William H

USA

NV

Las Vegas AFB, NV

500207

F-80A

44-85225

Las Vegas AFB, NV

LACGC

3

Breitkreutz, Alfred L.Jr

USA

NV

Las Vegas AFB

500916

F-80A

44-85225

Nellis AFB, NV

MACT

3

Melluish, David S.

USA

NV

25 Mi NE Indian Springs

510418

F-80A

44-85225

Nellis AFB, NV

MAC

3

Forrester, Robert L.

USA

NV

8 Mi NW Nellis AFB

550501

F-80C

44-85225

Will Rogers Field, OK

TOA

4

Zinn, John C

USA

WY

9M W Casper, WY

I too am curious about the most. I know you can sort in excel and tell it not to include duplicates in a column, but does anyone know how to tell it to only include duplicates? Or how to run a query in Access on how to find the must duplicates?


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